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Questions about Vishnu

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We focus on external things for pleasure. Does Vishnu do the same in projecting himself outwardly through us and everything, to be the receiver of that pleasure/love?

The problem we have is not that we look for pleasure in external things. That, as you noticed, is natural. The problem is th at we do not know who and what we are, and therefore we do not know how to find true pleasure anywhere. Vishnu is not subject to self-ignorance, and therefore is not subject to this frustration of pleasure.

I am attempting to understand the analogy of The Ocean and the drop of water. I want to know how does the drop become absorbed into The Ocean.

Water is, by nature, an indivisible molecule. This is not just a modern science idea, it is ingrained in ancient Saṅkhya science as well, which states that there are five irreducible physical components, one of which is the liquid, aka water.

Since water is indivisible, it cannot actually merge into an ocean. If you put two waters together they appear to become one, but in fact they have mixed, not merged. If you pour a tiny amount of water into a huge amount, the tiny amount MIXES INTO, not “merges with” the ocean.

The difference is that the concept of “merging” alters the entities involved in the merger. While “mixing” retains their individual identities, yet causes them to mingle.

This analogy is therefore offered in the Upaniṣads and by so many teachers of Vedic philosophy, as an idea way to directly comprehend the relationship between the Self and the Super-Self, the “individual” and “God.” The self does not cease to exist when it is engulfed in the Super-self. It mixes, not merges, with the Super-self.

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    avacascade

    I agree with you in a technical sense, but from a practical standpoint, the water is merged. As a parallel, blood is a mixture of things, as is proven by a centrifuge. From a day-to-day, “what should I do next” perspective, it is simply blood.
    Soma was technically a mixture with other things in the ocean, but it took an immense amount of work to churn the ocean and separate the Soma from it for practical use.
    I think it is inspiring to consider things mixed rather than merged, because it reveals the autonomy of a single molecule.

    Side point: It also wasn’t revealed until the poison was removed. The ambition almost destroyed all of creation. If someone hadn’t been there to get rid of the poison, it may have been better to consider the ocean merged, rather than a mixture.

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    avacascade

    Ashlesha needs to be pure like the elixir they know they deserve a drop of and not the poison of the vain King that refuses to. That’ll clear the demons of Ashlesha and entitle them to normal, non-bullying-unnecessarily-ostracized treatment from others. If you punish someone, they might remember and become twisted and greedy, instead of understanding the point of the communication. Ashlesha helps us detox the poison on your lips that was unnecessarily agreed to, for the chance at Soma too (and thus moksha- freedom from what traps them that they don’t think they can take anymore).

    Perhaps this will reveal the true nature of Ashlesha which is to be high empathy energy healers and receive others and give back without poison (they’ll poison their own support group if they don’t notice the effects their bitter poison has in destroying the resource it’s drawing from- against its will).

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